Michael Hoang joins Jordan Samuel Fleming to share how he pivoted from traditional wholesaling and fix-and-flips into a high-profit affordable housing strategy that is changing the way investors look at today’s market. Instead of chasing distressed sellers, Michael explains how he buys land, installs manufactured homes, and sells turnkey land-home packages through the MLS with margins reaching up to six figures per deal.

Throughout the conversation, Michael breaks down why this model works so well in today’s economy, how it creates affordable housing opportunities for buyers, and why it offers fewer headaches, lower risk, and more scalability than traditional flips. Jordan and Michael also discuss market shifts, private lending, regulations impacting wholesalers, and why investors need to adapt instead of relying on outdated strategies.

The episode also dives into wealth building, mentorship, and the importance of creating freedom through real estate. Michael shares his personal journey from corporate life to financial independence, along with his mission to help other investors build sustainable businesses that create long-term security, flexibility, and time freedom.

About Michael Hoang

Michael Hoang is a real estate investor, entrepreneur, and host of the Get Wealth Podcast based in Houston, Texas. With nearly a decade of experience in real estate and more than 200 deals completed across single-family and multifamily properties, Michael has built a reputation for adapting to changing markets and finding innovative investment opportunities that create long-term wealth.

After years of wholesaling and flipping homes, Michael shifted his focus toward affordable housing through land-home packages, a strategy that involves purchasing land, installing manufactured homes directly from the factory, and selling them as turnkey properties. His streamlined approach has helped investors generate strong profit margins while addressing the growing demand for affordable housing in markets across the United States.

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What a cool, elegant episode this week. I’m going to say that because you’ll know once you listen to the episode. I use that term and that word way too much in this episode, but I’ve got Michael Hoang here. Michael has a really interesting story because he transitioned over the last year from being a normal fix-and-flip guy, and he did wholesaling for a while as well.

Instead, when he found the market shifted, he moved into a new niche that I’d never really heard of, which is buying land, installing mobile homes on them, and selling them on the MLS. The profits he’s making are phenomenal. The numbers stack up really well. It’s turnkey and super easy. It’s fulfilling an affordable housing niche.

It’s making way more with a lot less hassle than most flips right now. All in all, elegant was the word I used, and I think it’s really cool. Mike is a great guy. I’ve talked to him a couple of times. I had the honor of appearing on his podcast as well, which we recorded recently. This is a really interesting one.

We all know the market’s changing a little. It doesn’t mean the market’s terrible or anything. It means it’s changing. And sometimes what has always worked isn’t going to work. What do you do in that case? Well, you look and see where you can pivot and change to meet the market’s needs. And Michael’s got a really elegant solution.

So without further ado, I’ll stop blathering on and head right into my conversation with Michael.

I’m live here with Michael Hoang. Michael, welcome to the podcast. Give everyone a sense of who you are.

Thanks, Jordan. My name is Michael Hoang. I’m the host of the Get Wealth Podcast, which we were very lucky and fortunate to have you on recently.

I’m a real estate investor based out of Houston, Texas. I’ve been in real estate for about eight or nine years now. I’ve done over 200 doors, single-family and multifamily properties, and I’m just really pumped about this new opportunity, this new niche in real estate that I’ve been teaching my students about.

Well, let’s dive into this because one of the things that I’ve found is, right now, with the market being weirder than, you know, it’s weird. I wouldn’t say it’s bad. It’s weird. What I’ve seen is now is the time people have to be more creative. Maybe they can’t just rely on all the strategies they’ve always done. They’re going to have to be a bit more sensible and look at different markets, or look at the market and decide to flip a strategy, change it up.

I loved what you were talking to me about. We do have the great benefit of having just had a good conversation about a week ago. I really loved the niche you were talking about and that you were introducing to students. So can you dive into that and lay that out for us?

Yeah. So, the houses I used to buy just don’t work anymore. Taxes are up, insurance is up, interest rates are up. The cash flow in single-family properties is basically a myth. I thought I was making cash flow in my portfolio for years. But then when you go to sell a property and you need to put a roof on it, you need to put a new AC in it, poof. There goes all your cash flow and more.

Real estate appreciates, and that’s really where we make our money. But the myth of cash flow just wasn’t there for me. And right now, at least here in Houston, there are people flipping houses to make $30,000 or $40,000 in profit. For me, that’s not enough. The juice is not worth the squeeze.

And so I discovered something that works in this market that’s in very high demand. It’s called land-home packages.

Let me explain. We buy a piece of land, get a mobile home straight from the manufacturer, and install it there. If you install it correctly, it qualifies for FHA financing. For anybody listening who doesn’t know what that means, it means the highest pool of buyers that you’re going to have, the largest number of people who could possibly buy your home, are going to be FHA buyers, first-time homebuyers.

Even though I’m here in Houston, Texas, we’re not doing it in Houston because housing prices aren’t high enough here. We’re doing it in markets where a home is $400,000 or $500,000, so someone’s willing to pay $250,000 to $350,000 for a mobile home. That’s where that margin comes in.

And I got to tell you, the margin is like frosting on a cake this thick. We’re talking $70,000, $80,000, $90,000, $100,000 of profit per deal that we do. If you tell any house flipper that, it just blows them away. It’s insane.

And not only that, it’s less work. To install a mobile home on a piece of land is way less work than flipping a house. I kind of wish I discovered this earlier.

Well, I think this is fascinating because I wonder in some markets if the mobile home wouldn’t work, but the kit houses could work really well or things like that. What I love about what you’re saying is, if you’re flipping a house, you’ve always got the challenge of scope creep, of unexpected stuff that you suddenly have to spend money on. Then your holding costs could suddenly go an extra two months, and you’re spending more money.

There’s a lot of unknowns when you’re dealing with a house that already exists. But what you’re saying is, when you are putting a mobile home straight from a manufacturer, then really, my simple brain says, you put it down and you connect it to the utilities, probably septic or city, electric and all that, and that’s sort of it. Is my simple brain correct, or am I missing a step?

Yeah. There are no surprises. That’s the big one. There are no surprises. And you’re right. Whenever we’re doing a single-family home, 1960s, 70s, 80s, 90s build, everything we touch turns out to be a bigger problem. More time, more money.

The gurus will tell you to add an additional 20% to your rehab budget. Sometimes it’s 25%. Sometimes it’s 50% more rehab budget.

With these, there are no surprises. The mobile home comes with the appliances already installed in it. The surprises are gone. When you look at the land and you get the permits for it, which is done through a professional mobile home installation company, they get the permits for that. If the permits are approved, your surprises are all gone.

We’re buying them direct from the factory. We have a dealer license, so we’re getting a big discount. And I provide people with access to dealer licenses so they can buy direct from the factory at a big discount.

These are publicly traded companies that are building this. I’ll just throw a name out there. One of them is Clayton Homes. This is owned by Berkshire Hathaway. This is a publicly traded company. When they tell you it’s going to be ready in 60 days, it’s going to be ready in 60 days, and everything works.

You’re using professional transportation companies to bring it to your site, using a professional installer to install it. And all they’re doing is, you nailed it, Jordan. They’re connecting the power, the water, the sewer, the internet. You have an AC guy go out there and connect the AC up, and they test everything, and you’re good to go.

It depends on the area and the comps. We always build to the comps, the comparable sales nearby. So if our sales comps have landscaping, we do landscaping. If our other comps have nice big porches, we do nice big porches. But you only do what the consumer in that area wants.

Man, it is so easy to do remotely. It’s so much less hands-on. And there’s so much more profit margin. My private lenders that used to lend to me doing single-family homes love this way more because the margin is so much bigger. Anybody who’s been a private lender before understands that the more margin your borrower or your investor is making, the safer your return is as the private lender.

This has been kind of a godsend, that the economics changed in Houston and I found this new niche.

I mean, I just think it’s such a cool, streamlined version of real estate. It’s so streamlined. I love that idea of essentially a new build without the build. Someone else is building the house and then delivering it to you.

I would have thought that connecting all those things up, if you’ve got a good ability to project manage and get contractors organized in the right way, the hookup could be done in a day or two. There’s really not that much there.

And from a buyer’s point of view, it’s a new house. It’s a new house. I’m sure there are elements of warranty that come with these things, the new appliances, it’s all new. It’s elegant. It’s an elegant and streamlined version of real estate that I had not really come across before.

Yeah. Everything’s new, everything’s problem-free. It’s in demand. It’s what people want. It’s affordable, and affordability is a big deal, the big challenge these days. So we’re providing affordable housing, and the counties love it.

We only go and do it where it’s already being done. We don’t go pioneer out in places where it’s not already happening. It just takes one or two of these deals a year to replace your W-2 income.

You know how I got started in real estate? For anybody who doesn’t know my story, I was traveling every single week for eight and a half years. I would fly from Houston to another city Monday through Friday. I was gone. I was only home on weekends and holidays, and I knew that was unsustainable.

Then we grew the company from $180 million in revenue to $1.1 billion in revenue, went public, and the fruits of going public were not distributed in the way they were promised.

That’s when I realized that you will never get rich off a job. I don’t know where this idea came from in our American culture that people are just going to get a good job and get rich. Everybody acts like they’re rich when they get a good, nice, stable white-collar job or something.

Not a single person that’s got a job, or maybe the CEO of the company, if you work for a big Fortune 500, maybe the top guy or two, make serious money from their job. Wealth is created by owning and controlling assets. It’s not created by trading your time for money.

When I came to that realization, I was like, okay, I’ve got to build a bridge to get me out of my job. So I naturally led myself to real estate. The deals I was doing at that time, the economics were great, but every product has a life cycle. The market changed.

If it didn’t change, I would have stayed right here in Houston, Texas, doing what I was doing, buying single-family homes in the suburbs. But as the market changes, we have to change. Then I found this new niche, and it is way more profitable and way less competitive than what I was doing with single-family houses here in Houston.

I hope I can just do this the rest of my career because if you crank out one or two of these a year, your salary is replaced. Learn what you’re doing, then you can crank out far more than that and make a really good life for you and your family.

Well, as you say, if your profits on a deal like this are $70,000 to $100,000, then unless you’ve got a very good W-2, a couple deals a year and you’re fine. You’re replaced. Unless you’re making $600,000, $700,000, $800,000 a year, but that’s not a huge percentage of people.

So let me ask you a couple questions about this. I’m essentially peeling back the onion or seeing how the sausage is made a little, so you can tell me whatever you’re comfortable telling me.

I know you teach people this, and at the end of the podcast, we’re going to make sure people understand how to find you and how to look into this with you and how they can learn. But if I’m looking at land, and because I think your point about the competitive ecosystem when it comes to wholesalers or fix-and-flippers in most markets is that almost all decent markets are saturated with people all fighting over the same deals.

When you look at land, which has a lot less competition, what is it that you look for in the land? If you’re doing single-family homes, you’re looking for distressed sellers. Who’s got a problem you can help them with? You’re looking for a tired landlord or probate, whatever it is.

When it comes to land, what are the things you look for that make you say, this would be good for this solution? What are the key things that matter when looking at that land?

Yeah, great question, Jordan. Whenever we buy single-family homes, we are looking for someone who wants to trade speed and convenience for money. Everybody knows that we look for some kind of distress.

The beautiful part about what I do is that we’re buying land right off the MLS at full market value. There doesn’t have to be a distress indicator. You can make more money if you buy it for cash off-market land, but all I’m really doing is finding pockets in the country where mobile homes are selling.

If it was built on an acre of land, we know that we need to find an acre of land. If it was built on 0.75, because every county and every state can have a little bit of a different requirement, we just look at what’s being sold nearby and go find that land, many times right on the market. It’s not that hard.

A lot of our profit margin comes from the fact that no one really knows about this yet, and also that we’re buying the mobile homes direct from the manufacturer, $30,000, $40,000, $50,000 off what you would pay if you bought it from the dealer.

A lot of that margin comes out of that as well. This is really plug-and-play. You’re not really limited by, like I remember when I was buying houses in Houston, I was sending a lot of direct mail. I was waiting for people to call me. I was waiting for me to go on appointments.

Here, I’ve got private lenders. I’ve got their money deployed. Private lenders are funding 100% of my deals. I’m doing deals with zero out of my pocket with land that’s on market. It doesn’t get much better than this.

I’m gated simply by, hey, I need to get these three projects sold, get my private lenders their money back so we can redeploy it into the next round of deals.

I’m no longer waiting on my phone to ring from a distressed seller. I’m no longer doing lengthy negotiations to buy a house that needs severe rehab. I’m just buying land right off the MLS. That doesn’t mean we can’t go off market and get an even juicier deal, but it means that, for my students, I’m teaching that you don’t have to do that.

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I really like that because, again, I’m going to go back and use the word elegant. It’s quite an elegant solution because when you’re dealing with people who are really under pressure, there are times, and I’ve dealt with thousands of real estate investors, most of them actually have their heart in the right place.

Most of them aren’t trying to screw people over. Most of them are trying to make money, but they’re also enjoying the fact that this person is trying to get out of a situation and they’re helping them out of it. It’s a win-win for most of the people I’ve dealt with.

There have been some people I’ve dealt with who are just assholes and would screw their grandmother out of their house for pennies. But most of them aren’t.

What is wonderful about this is you also have the pick of the litter from a land point of view. When you’re searching for off-market deals, you’ve got to either do a lot of marketing so people come in, or you’ve got to do legwork to find them. One way or another, there’s a lot of work that goes into off-market deals.

But if you’re buying straight off the MLS, if you’re able to make this kind of profit and not really be worried about trying to find discounts, but just go and browse and find the lots that fit your criteria and pay their asking price, and you’re still able to make $80,000 or $90,000 in profit, then the scalability of that could be really pushed forward. It’ll just be down to how much capital you can deploy at one time.

Yeah, that’s right. And it gets even better than that, Jordan. All of these regulations are coming out for wholesalers. It doesn’t affect this niche.

In some states, we’re starting to hear words about protected class, about equity stripping, about distressed sellers becoming a protected class in certain jurisdictions. Nobody is looking at, cares, or is preventing you from developing affordable housing. That’s what you are. You’re an affordable housing developer.

All of this new stuff that’s going on with regulations, wholesaling, flipping, equity stripping, cold calling, and all that stuff, none of that’s in play here. We are affordable housing providers, and almost every jurisdiction in the United States is asking, how can we get more of that?

Yeah, 100%. We know that regardless of wherever the market is in any location, there’s an inventory shortage. There is an inventory shortage across the country, particularly at the affordable level, as you say.

If you’re providing good, modern, clean new solutions at that price point and still being able to make a good amount of money, then that is a fantastic recipe. Maybe we shouldn’t publicize this, but I think it’s fantastic.

Now, let me ask you two questions, and you can say, no, you’re an idiot and don’t try to get in the way. But there have got to be places where mobile homes aren’t really accepted, where they’re not part of the cultural acceptance, or there are markets or areas where this won’t work.

But couldn’t the principle still work if it was, as I said, doing a kit home or whatever? If it’s not mobile homes, the principle could work in almost any market if you find the right thing that fits what people want in that market.

Yeah, there are lots of places where mobile homes are not wanted, and that’s why we only look at developing where there’s lots of sales comps. I don’t ever want to be the pioneer, the first on something. I want to do what is working, what is proven, what’s in the data, and what is profitable.

Some cities don’t allow them. Or they grandfather in the old ones that have been there for a while, but they don’t want new ones. Some cities welcome them.

Most of the story is told by the sales comps. You can go on Land.com, Zillow, Redfin, and see where the new mobile homes have recently sold or are listed for sale. When you see ten of them in a three-mile radius or five-mile radius going up, for sale, or recently sold, you can understand that that community wants them. There’s a drive for it. That’s probably where you should be building them as well.

The science of where to put these things, what they should look like, and which model of manufactured home, we’re supposed to be calling them manufactured homes, that’s more elegant. One of my lenders told me, you really should call these manufactured homes, not mobile homes, because they’re not mobile. Once they put them there, they take the wheels and the tongue off of them, and they strap them down to the ground.

But it is what it is. They’re mobile homes. I call them mobile homes.

We just let the sales comps do the talking and tell us where to go. We don’t reinvent the wheel. We just give people what they want, where they want it, at the price they want to pay.

We’re not making the comps. We’re not driving up sales comps. We’re not making homes unaffordable. We’re providing what people want, where they want it, what it looks like.

There is never a more proud homebuyer than someone who couldn’t afford a $500,000 home in the city, but can drive 30 minutes outside the city and afford a $300,000 mobile home on some land. It’s very rewarding when you provide a family with a home like that.

It’s fantastic. Very, very interesting model.

So now let’s talk a bit about your coaching and how you deal with students. What was your journey to deciding, man, I’ve actually got an opportunity here to help other people do this? When did you decide it? How did you get started in it? Aside from obviously people paying for your time and expertise, do you find that the fulfilling aspect of helping people do this is your key driver?

There are three questions there.

Yeah. So, the coaching was born out of me doing it for free because people wouldn’t leave me alone.

Going back to my single-family home days, I found myself coaching friends and family members and people in many areas. Eventually, I was like, man, I have got to shorten the list of people who are taking up my time because we all have the same 24 hours in a day.

It’s been very rewarding for me. I love providing affordable homes to people. I found that to be much more rewarding than doing my old method in the suburbs.

But when you can change somebody’s life by teaching them to do the same thing, I have never found one of my students competing with me. It’s also the same for my mentors. Every niche in real estate I’ve worked in, I went and hired a mentor that taught me. Never once was I competing with one of my mentors, and never once have I found a student competing with me. I don’t think that’s going to change anytime soon.

I kind of see us all growing together, learning together, working together. Truth be told, my students have taught me a thing or two over the years. It’s been a very rewarding journey.

It’s part of a giveback, just to help the next generation of people get started. I think of it like that old game we played when we were kids, at least I did. It was Barrel of Monkeys. You grab one at random and pull it out, and they all come out in the chain.

Anybody of any consequence, any men or women of significance that you’ve seen on the news or TV or movies, they didn’t just appear on top of that summit. Every step along the way, there was someone one step ahead of them pulling them up. Then it’s their responsibility to turn around, look at someone who’s one step behind them, and pull them up.

We are just a chain ascending up the hill. I don’t want to ever break that chain. As I learn, do, and implement, I have to turn around and teach. That’s what my first mentor taught me, and I continue to pass that on.

I think that’s really beautiful. I also think you and I are members of one of the same masterminds together, and what I have found since joining that mastermind, and then one other mastermind, is that I have been surprised, having dealt in real estate for the last ten years and with real estate investors, by the generosity of people.

The generosity of people giving their time, their expertise, the willingness to share, to support, to commiserate when things are bad, and celebrate when things are good.

You could easily look at the real estate investor game and see the arrogant few on Instagram who flash nothing but the cars, pretend to have the private plane when they’ve really just hired it, and pretend to have all this. They’re living on that image element and selling the image.

But the truth is, when I’ve met with so many of these wonderful communities, coaches, and masterminds, what I’ve been surprised about was just how generous and well-meaning everybody is. That’s a really good part of this sector and industry that I don’t think gets enough credit.

Yeah. Me and my wife live a very modest life. We do very well, but we live in a middle-class house. We drive a middle-class car because wealth has a different definition to us personally.

We look at wealth as a runway. How many months or years can we do nothing and our standard of living not change? How long can we go live in Asia? My wife is from Asia. How long can we go live in Asia and be around her family and it not impact our life? How many places can we go see that the average American may never go and see, and our standard of living not change?

That’s our definition of wealth: peace of mind and security. Not exactly flashy cars. Truth be told, I do have a Rolex, but we’re not balling out of control. We don’t have a huge house. We’re not flashing cars and stuff like that.

For us, wealth is peace of mind, security, freedom, and time freedom to be with our family and to be where we want to be. Because we run this business, we can run this business even when we’re overseas, where I could never see myself flipping houses while I’m overseas.

Yeah. So, just to round this conversation off, I’m sure there are going to be people who are looking at their markets and going, what he’s saying makes a lot of sense.

If you’ve got experience and maybe you’ve done wholesaling, maybe you’ve done a fix-and-flip, maybe you flipped a couple of houses, what level of real estate knowledge do you feel someone would need to come into your program and get success? Or can it literally be, I’m interested in getting out of my W-2, can you provide me with enough knowledge?

Yeah. The beauty of this is it is a lighter lift than what I used to do. We’re not doing a bunch of complicated marketing strategies. We’re not doing cold calling and closing people. When we sell it, we use a realtor.

This is such a lighter lift, less work, and more profit than the previous model of real estate that I used to do. Most people who come to me are beginners. I probably should do a better job of marketing towards burnt-out wholesalers and house flippers, but so far it’s mostly been beginners who were either referred to me, saw me online, or saw my podcast.

Yeah, I think there’s definitely, the more I’ve talked to people, and I speak to a lot of investors, coaches, professional service providers in this space every day at this point, everybody has been universal in saying, hey, what has always worked may not work right now. So you’ve got to think laterally.

Everybody in the coaching business who’s just been doing wholesaling has struggled over the last eight to twelve months. Everybody knows that. It’s been a bit of a slog for the last little while.

The truth is, the answer is not to jack it in. The answer is you may need to switch a little. You may need to pivot and find something new.

I definitely could see the distressed wholesalers or flippers who have been finding it even harder thinking, maybe this is a way to get some mojo back as well.

And because this is also a strategy you can do alongside those other ones, super easy. It’s such a low lift. You could be flipping two houses and working on one of these, and you could probably do three of these deals on the side if you’ve got access to the capital.

It’s not like you’re having to project manage three massive rebuilds anymore. You’re just having to do exactly what you’ve outlined, which is find the plot, buy the plot, put on the house, get it connected, and sell it through a realtor.

Yeah. Not only that, but I’ve found a way to do this tax-free or tax-deferred. I’ve found a way that you can do this inside of a self-directed IRA or self-directed solo 401(k), so you don’t even have to pay the tax on this if you structure it correctly.

You could do one inside and one outside your retirement account. If anybody has any questions about that, we’ll share how to get a hold of me, but you can message me the word IRA, and I can get you that strategy and get you something that’ll help you get that set up.

Man, once you understand the wealth that can be unlocked by providing affordable housing, you won’t understand why you spent so long trading your time for money.

Well, on that bombshell, I’m going to bring this to an end. Michael, this is our third conversation, I think, now. I think I’m seeing you in a couple weeks as well. Am I seeing you in Orlando?

That’s right.

Fantastic. So we can have a drink together. We could finally shake hands. I don’t know if you’re a cigar man, but I can be bribed with cigars and whiskey very easily.

Let’s close this out with how people can find you. This is such an elegant strategy. I’m going to say it one last time. It’s an elegant strategy. To me, that’s the word that keeps popping up. It’s a really elegant strategy that doesn’t require having to cut corners and scrape the barrel. It’s about being judicious in how you look at things, finding the right fits, and then running a very simple play.

So how do people find you? How do they find you to speak with you? How do they find you to learn from you?

Yeah. So my Instagram is @michaelbsomeone, all one word. Michael B Someone.

Nobody has abused this yet, so I am giving out my cell phone number on this podcast until someone gives me a reason not to. But please do not call me. Please text me because I get so many spam calls, just like you guys do. So if you call me, I’m not going to answer. My number is (832) 301-9672.

Again, text me before you call me. Follow my Instagram for more golden nuggets of what I do. There’s a link in my bio where we’re always putting free resources up there for people.

I’m on all the other social medias as well, but Instagram is the easiest one to shout out when you’re speaking publicly. So, yeah, if anybody’s got any questions, that’s how you get a hold of me.

Dude, I’m going to have to get you a smrtPhone number that gets answered by an AI agent just to weed people out and then schedule calls with you.

Is it a good idea?

Yes, because giving out your own cell phone number is a dangerous game, my friend.

Well, hey, when this podcast comes out in the future, the cell phone number may not work. So you might have to either go to my Instagram to get my smrtPhone number.

Okay. Yeah, I was going to say that’s an easy win on that one.

Well, Michael, a genuine pleasure to see you again, my man. I’m looking forward to seeing you in person in a couple weeks. Thank you so much for bringing such a fascinating exit strategy. I think it’s really timely.

If you are someone listening to this or watching this, and you are in a market where you think, man, that makes a lot of sense, then I think you should hit Michael up. We’ll make sure that all the links go into the description.

Michael, thank you so much and have a fantastic rest of your day.

Yeah. Thank you, Jordan.

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